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@ikelos ikelos commented Nov 25, 2025

I updated the existing example (because it didn't seem like giving the example twice would be worthwhile). Please let me know if there's any other changes needed or if I've messed anything up in the description...

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ikelos commented Nov 25, 2025

Close #1381

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Zamiell commented Jan 15, 2026

thank you for the PR!
also. you can review my edits to see if i made any mistakes

@Zamiell Zamiell merged commit a3cdfe9 into hanabi:main Jan 15, 2026
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Thanks for the edits, I think the word adds clarity but I'd made a mistake in the diagram and in the process I think that threw you off and the wording got changed too! I've added suggestions for the document, but couldn't seem to add them for the yaml file...

- Alice sees that it would require three separate clues to clue all of Bob's critical cards. However, Alice can obviously only give one clue.
- Alice clues blue to Bob, touching a card in slot 1 and slot 3 as a _Play Clue_.
- Bob knows that the clue is focused on his slot 1 card. Therefore, the slot 1 card must be the blue 3. He tries to play the card, but it is actually a blue 4 and misplays.
- Bob knows that if Alice is not making a mistake, she is communicating a _Misplay Chop Move_. Bob marks his slot 3 and slot 5 cards are being _Chop Moved_. Additionally, Bob marks his other blue card in slot 4 as being a blue 3, a blue 4, or a blue 5. Bob's chop is now his slot 2 card.
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I don't think these add up, my intention had been for slot 2 and slot 4 to be clued, but it got changed back to 1 and 3, but this line now says his chop is slot 2? I chose slot 2 and slot 4 to show that it could be used without needing to chop move someone's entire hand (but it looks like I messed the diagram up, sorry!

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- Bob knows that if Alice is not making a mistake, she is communicating a _Misplay Chop Move_. Bob marks his slot 3 and slot 5 cards are being _Chop Moved_. Additionally, Bob marks his other blue card in slot 4 as being a blue 3, a blue 4, or a blue 5. Bob's chop is now his slot 2 card.
- Bob knows that if Alice is not making a mistake, she is communicating a _Misplay Chop Move_. Bob marks his slot 3 and slot 5 cards as being _Chop Moved_. Additionally, Bob marks his other blue card in slot 4 as being a blue 3, a blue 4, or a blue 5. Bob's chop is now his slot 2 card.

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- type: b
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Are known cards never classed as chop moved? That's fine if so, just in my head I tend to think of them as chop moved... 5:P

- Bob knows that if Alice is not making a mistake, then she must be trying to communicate something special. Bob can reason that multiple cards in his hard are important, so he marks slot 3, slot 4 and slot 5 as being _Chop Moved_. Slot 3 has been chop moved, therefore slot 2 is his new chop.
- Bob's hand is completely unclued. Bob also has three critical cards in a row on his chop.
- Alice sees that it would require three separate clues to clue all of Bob's critical cards. However, Alice can obviously only give one clue.
- Alice clues blue to Bob, touching a card in slot 1 and slot 3 as a _Play Clue_.
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I think this was supposed to be slot 2 and slot 4, but I got the diagram wrong, sorry!

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- Alice clues blue to Bob, touching a card in slot 1 and slot 3 as a _Play Clue_.
- Alice clues blue to Bob, touching a card in slot 2 and slot 4 as a _Play Clue_.

- Bob's hand is completely unclued. Bob also has three critical cards in a row on his chop.
- Alice sees that it would require three separate clues to clue all of Bob's critical cards. However, Alice can obviously only give one clue.
- Alice clues blue to Bob, touching a card in slot 1 and slot 3 as a _Play Clue_.
- Bob knows that the clue is focused on his slot 1 card. Therefore, the slot 1 card must be the blue 3. He tries to play the card, but it is actually a blue 4 and misplays.
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slot 2 card and therefore slot 2 must be the blue 3.

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- Bob knows that the clue is focused on his slot 1 card. Therefore, the slot 1 card must be the blue 3. He tries to play the card, but it is actually a blue 4 and misplays.
- Bob knows that the clue is focused on his slot 2 card. Therefore, the slot 2 card must be the blue 3. He tries to play the card, but it is actually a blue 4 and misplays.

- type: x
- cards:
- type: b3
- type: b4
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I don't seem to be able to make a suggestion for this, but one of the type: x lines from the end should be at the start.

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The "after" state looks to be correct.

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Zamiell commented Jan 15, 2026

since this PR was merged, we have to do new edits in a PR.
would you mind submitting a new PR with any fixes?
as for specifically the slot numbers, I am fine with the slot numbers on Bob being 1 + 3, as that will be the most common slots for an MCM.

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